Who Is The Best Climber in the World?


By Ian Parnell
.   Originally published on

We seem to live in a world of increasing specialisation. Not only do we define ourselves as climbers but further many of us are specifically boulderers, sport climbers or alpinists. And then there are the real specialists: headpointers who focus exclusively on grit or winter climbers who only climb bolted M routes. For the really dedicated there are even those who concentrate on one crag polishing their skills and the holds to a high sheen such as the Pex Hill gnarler, while at it's most perverse this obsession has led some to devote large sections of their life hanging on the 4th bolt of Mecca. To devotees of a particular aspect of climbing 5 years spent finessing their next micron grade advance will mark out the true disciples but to most of us I have a feeling it is the big so what?

Instead I believe that most climbers really respect the all rounder, the climbers climber who can turn up at any crag and lead their grade, who can crank on the bolts but not crumble in the face of a runout. John Dunne is admired because he took his Malham sport honed power to the big trad challenges from grit to limestone to the mountain crags. Or can you remember how impressed we parochial Brits were when French sport climbing star Jean Minh Trinh came to grit and showed he can hold his own and even take the lobs with the best of us.

A while back during a storm bound base camp discussion I cobbled together a table listing and rating the key aspects of climbing. Through a mixture of spray, rumour and outright bullshit we rated ourselves and friends and the storm passed by unnoticed. Since then I've tested the table on all sorts of climbers and everyone seemed intrigued, so it seems worth "going public" on planetFear. The table presented here is a refined version of my expedition scribbles but we welcome feedback towards mark 2. Of course talking about grades there is plenty of room for disagreement but please try and keep things in perspective, it's only meant to be a bit of fun. Whether you score 4 or 150 your boss is unlikely to double your wages and you'll still just be the badly dressed outdoor geek to the opposite sex!

One of the main issues for a table like this is what represents an all-round climber; in Britain for example the big diversity is between sport and trad climbing, in America an all rounder would have to be very competent on cracks whereas on the continent a true all rounder would also be expected to ski superbly. For our table the bias of disciplines is weighted towards the core activity of rock climbing but includes a substantial mountaineering/winter climbing element. I have tried to design it so whatever grade you climb you can gather a score. I have also tried to make it not too Brit-centric and so what ever country you come from you can still participate.

Rules and Regs

Scoring
Simply locate your best effort under each category and read across horizontally to get a score, add up a score from each of the categories and hey presto you have your all rounder total score. If you have never taken part in a particular activity you will obviously register a zero.

Points

Rock

Winter

Mountains

Miscellaneous

-

Trad Onsight

Trad Headpoint

Sport Onsight

Sport Redpoint

Bouldering

UK Mixed

Ice

Mixed

Alpine

Altitude

Long Routes

Comps

Aid

Gnarl

135

E9

E11

8c

9b

v15

XI

WI8

M14

ED7

14 x 8,000m FA's

-

Double World Title

-

-

125

E8

E10

8b+

9a / 9a+

v14

X

WI7+

M12 / 13

ED6

14 x 8,000m

-

World Title

-

True Hero

120

-

 

8b

8c / 8c+

v13

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

A5

-

115

E7

E9

8a

8b+

v12

IX

-

M10

ED5

K2 or 6x8,000m

-

National Champion

-

-

110

-

-

7c+

8b

v11

-

WI7

-

-

-

-

-

A4+

-

105

E6

E8

7c

8a+

v10

-

-

M9

ED4

2x8,000m or Everest

15+ Days

International Competitor / National Finalist

-

-

100

-

-

7b+

8a

v9

VIII

WI6+

-

-

-

-

-

A4

-

95

E5

E7

7b

7c+

v8+

-

-

M8

ED3

8,000m

7-14 Days

National Competitor

-

-

90

-

-

7a+

7c

v8

-

WI6

-

-

-

-

-

A3+

-

85

E4

E6

7a

7b+

v7

VII

-

M7

ED2

7,500m

4-7 Days

-

-

-

80

-

-

6c+

7b

v6

-

WI5+

-

-

-

-

-

A3

-

75

E3

E5

6c

7a+

v6

VI

-

M6

ED1

7,000m

Multiple Bivvies

Local Comp Winner

-

Gnarler

70

-

-

6b+

7a

-

-

WI5

-

-

-

-

-

A2+

-

65

E2

E4

6b

6c+

v5

V

-

M5

TD

6,500m

Single Bivvy

-

-

-

60

-

-

6a+

6c

-

-

WI4

-

-

-

-

-

A2

-

55

E1

E3

6a

6b+

v4

IV

-

M4

D+

6,000m

10+ Pitches

-

-

-

50

-

-

-

-

-

-

WI3

-

-

-

-

-

A1+

-

45

HVS

E2

5+

6b

v3

III

-

M3

D

5,500m

5-10 Pitches

Competed Locally

-

Character

40

-

-

-

-

-

-

WI2

-

-

-

-

-

A1

-

35

VS

E1

5

6a+

v2

II

-

M2

AD

5,000m

Up to 3 Pitches

-

-

-

30

-

-

-

-

-

-

WI1

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

25

HS

HVS

4+

6a

v1

I

-

M1

PD

4,500m

-

-

-

-

20

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

 

-

-

-

-

15

S

VS

 

5+

-

-

-

-

-

4,000m

-

-

A0

-

10

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

5

VD

HS

3+

5

-

Winter Walk

-

-

-

Monroe

-

-

-

-

 

Grades

All grades should be climbing community consensus grades. However any Planetfear forum regulars will know that where grades are concerned consensus is a very tricky thing to find. Guidebooks offer a good starting point, however there are some well known anomalies such as the inflated current guidebook grade given to the boulder problem Brad Pit. In the end it is largely down to personal honesty, most people know when they have stumbled onto a gift, don't rob yourself of the true feeling of success when you finally do make that breakthrough climb. Any disputes will be resolved by the great adjudicator in cyber space (Adrian).

Perhaps the most contentious area is the equivilance of performance on this table. How do you compare say Himalayan high altitude climbing and bouldering? I've done this by a combination of factors such as the number of climbers who operate at certain levels (taking into account the amount of climbers involved in that particular branch of climbing), personal research such as onsight to redpoint comparison on the Planetfear training holidays plus a big dose of guess work.

Rock

Trad

The British system is used here which might confuse some oversees readers. Usually a two part grading system comprising an overall grade and then a technical grade describing the hardest individual move on the route. Here only the overall grade counts.

Surprise, surprise onsight means exactly that, a clean lead (placing all gear on lead) or solo with no prior practice or knowledge apart from standard guidebook info. Repeated viewing of the Hard Grit video, running hold for hold beta from your mate or that failed top rope attempt 10 years ago on Masters Edge when you were just learning to climb all invalidate an onsight. A practised ascent or headpoint allows any amount of practice, prior inspection or beta as long as the final ascent is a clean lead placing all gear on lead (apart of course from solo ascents). Taking into account the fact that many people have never headpointed for those whose onsight grade is HVS or less it is acceptable that routes cleanly seconded are allowed to be registered as practised ascents (note however that the rope must be kept slack no hauled top rope cheating). The use of pre placed gear, side runners or the use of mats not used on consensus ascents will decrease the grade.

Sport

We've used the widely accepted French Sport grading system. Again onsight ascents are beta free (please don't confuse with flash ascents after watching your mate work out all the moves). Practised or redpoint ascents can range from first go flashes following running beta from a friend to mammoth multi-visit sieges as long as on the eventual ascent none of the gear is weighted. Stick clipping of gear is out, pre clipping of gear is only acceptable if the leader has clipped the said gear on a clean attempt and then down climbed to the ground without weighting the gear. Again for those not used to redpointing anyone onsighting 5+ or below can claim a clean second as their redpoint.

Bouldering

We've used the "V" grading system invented by the Australian climber John Sherman and widely used in the UK (don't confuse with "B" grades) and the US. Your hardest ever boulder problem counts whether onsight or following extensive working. The use of unlimited mats is now widely accepted. All ascents of course must be unassisted so no "super close" spotting or "bouncing" sit starts.

Winter climbing

3 branches of winter climbing are listed on the chart, in order to make the table open to oversees climbers only 2 of the 3 count towards your final score.

UK Mixed

The Scottish grading system is used here with again the overall route grade (roman numerals) all important. In winter climbing conditions can vary enormously and care should be taken with grades which are often moderated for exceptionally good conditions i.e. the Shroud on Ben Nevis which is grade VII as a free hanging icicle but in recent years has formed as a solid pillar rating a more realistic VI. For anyone who has dabbled in modern Scottish mixed climbing they will be aware of the complex web of ethical issues surrounding the ascent of all rock routes. Hopefully readers consciences will dictate that a route is well hoared up and wintery for the full tick. The grade is given for an onsight ascent, a worked ascent with hoar cleaned from the rock is a significantly easier effort.

Ice

This uses the French and Canadian WI waterfall ice grade. Again conditions can wary on a day to day or even hourly basis. Most icefalls get their grade for first ascent conditions, repeated ascents will clean much of the ice and create hooks vastly easing further repeats. To give an example Nuit Blanche in Chamonix was originally climbed as a WI7 it has since formed much fatter as a WI5+. Perhaps more than any other category an honest personal assessment of the difficulties encountered is needed. Again the grade is for an onsight ascent as for example a worked ascent where ice screws are left in place will be significantly easier.

M Climbs

This refers to "dry tooling" winter climbs which may or may not have ice on them, most are sport climbs protected by bolts. The grading system is the American M grade system with the grade for either onsight or worked ascent.

Mountains

Alpine

The French alpine grading system is used. Note this refers to proper alpine routes. The French often use this grading system on big multipitch routes in the valleys or pre Alps, these are not alpine routes. Similarly be wary of the alpine grades given to modern alpine sport rock routes, it is highly questionable that an easily escapable bolted route should be given an ED grade but if it is to be used then usually an all free ascent is essential to earn the full tick.

Altitude

This is my own judgment on difficulty. Unless where stipulated reaching the summit is not necessary only to reach or surpass the required altitude. Descent must also then be made unassisted from that height. Needless to say the use of supplementary oxygen is cheating. If bottled oxygen is used at any time whether for climbing or not then the legitimate height is up to where bottled oxygen is first used. The use of supplementary oxygen on the descent invalidates the height claim.

Long Routes

I've included this category as I feel multi-pitch routes are a big step up in commitment from single pitch cragging. This is particularly evident when you first start climbing. However it is a little bit perverse to reward the length of time spent on routes particularly as speed is one of the more revered attributes in climbing. Unfortunately judging speed seems impossible unless we choose one route and have a column for times on El Cap's Nose. As a result I haven't continued the scoring beyond the equivilant of climbing E6.

Competitions

Just stepping up to put your climbing talent on the line in competition is a big challenge even if it is your local bouldering ladder. Points are awarded for just taking part in a local competition, winning a local event, taking part in one of the national competitions (BICC or BBC), making a national final, winning one of the National titles and finally wining a world title.

Aid

It may seem strange to Brits to include something done only on wet winter days or while cheating on a free route but in many countries aid climbing is an integral skill in all round climbing. The American aid grading system is used. These are "New Wave" grades where A5 involves full rope length (50-60m) pitches of body weight only placements, any fall will strip the whole pitch with potential for 100m+ falls. I only know of 2 Brits who have led this type of terrain (Kevin Thaw and Andy Kirkpatrick). Lower down the scale bear in mind that modern aid grades tend to be very conservative so in Yosemite the Nose is A1+, Zodiac A2, PO Wall A3. To further complicate matters grades rapidly change following the first ascent, so if you made the first or second ascent of PO Wall then you can afford yourself a full A4+ tick. The flipside of this is the terrible state of the situ gear on some British aid climbs; the Scoop on Strone Ulladale for example is now in a very serious state and probably rates at least A3+.

Gnarl Factor

I've thrown this category in for fun. We need characters in climbing and their colour amongst the grey should be rewarded. The scoring system is my own very subjective system but consists of several "levels" as follows:

True Hero
The real heros are those that put their lives on line for others. The ultimate in climbing must be a rescue of a "life threatened" climber in a situation of extreme risk to the rescuer, I'm thinking of the likes of Valerie Babanov who managed to rescue 2 dying climbers on Everest in storm conditions.

Gnarler
The real hard men and women. Those who climb their leading grade in the rain, drink 10 pints and still go for Right Wall the next day or if they can't get a lift cycle to North Wales for the weekend.

Character
Your general rock loon, whether it's a penchant for climbing in fancy dress, say Zukator in winkle pickers or an inability to remember their harness but comfortable in going for it with an improvised 8ft sling. Or maybe it's 10 consecutive winter weekends in Scotland from London or hitching to Font to pull down for the weekend. Someone who stands out from the crowd.


All Rounder sample profiles

To give an example of how the table works here are a few scoring profiles of some top climbers. Each climber throws up instances of where a table like this misses out much of the subtlety of climbing performance. In the end this table can only give a rough snapshot of performance but if you looking for absolute pecking order I think you're perhaps missing the point and taking this little table a little too seriously.

John Arran

If I had to pick one partner for a rock climb, someone who could handle anything thrown at them rain or shine, bolts or RP protected cheese it would be John Arran. Long regarded by many as amongst Britain's very best all-round rock climbers, I've included John here to illustrate a couple of points. Firstly an all rounder isn't just an all round rock climber. John's not the biggest fan of snow and ice and his scores reflect that, however leading Scottish mixed grade VI as his 2nd winter route shows that if John turned his hand in that direction he'd soon be able to excel.

The second point is perhaps a weakness in the table as it misses much of the subtle issues that under pin an all rounder. John has the ability to crank on all rock types; I've held his ropes on E7s from grit to limestone to shale. But in this table this range of skill and experience scores the same as a one off month long siege of Kaluza Klein. And how about putting a score to the ability to climb 8a on pitch 18 of the rotting Long Hope Route in Orkney or onsight E7 5 days up a jungle wall in Venezuela. (One possibility to cover this range would be to add up the score of the top 5 climbs in each category). Even something as seemingly simple as hardest redpoint doesn't tell the full story, with several of Johns 8bs having been made first redpoint shortly after the routes first ascent in the early 90s. Also perhaps Johns strongest skill - soloing isn't covered in the table with his 80s onsight solo of the 6pitch 5.11 Jules Verne, a feat still unrepeated, perhaps worth a similar score to his more recent headpoint of Doctor Doolittle.

Rock, Trad Onsight

E7 - Tonight at Noon (Leyn Peninsular) 115 points

Rock, Headpoint

E10 - Doctor Doolittle (Curbar) 125pts

Rock, Sport Onsight

8a 115pts

Rock, Redpoint

8b 110pts

Rock, Bouldering

V8+, "I've not really tried" 95pts

Winter, UK Mixed

VI 75pts

Winter, Ice

WI5+ 80pts

Winter, Mixed

-

Winter, Alpine

ED4 - The Philosophers Stone, Krygyzstan. 1400m long, E6 climbing with 15m runouts in a relatively remote area. Arguably John's Venezuelan walls would rate ED5. 105pts

Altitude

5700m 35pts

Competitions

Won a BICC and a long time member of the British team 105pts

Long Routes

12 days spent on (Venezuela) 95pts

Aid

A1+ "not intentionally" 50pts

Gnarl Factor

John's a nice guy on the outside although naming one of his routes British Machiavellian Council after a previous employer might give a hint of another side of his personality, so Character 45pts

Total

1,150pts

 

Stevie Haston

"I am the best". Stevie has certainly not been bashful about stating his claim to be the world's best all round climber. And behind the bravado there is real substance, in particular through the 90s Stevie led the world in pushing winter climbing standards while in the Alps he helped to transform the technical level of alpine rock routes up to 8b+. As Stevie himself has pointed out on the continent a full rounded mountain man (there's no point in being pc here Stevie would never say mountain person!) should be an excellent skier and Stevie is pretty handy on the snowboard having descended from 7200m in Nepal. Unfortunately plank control isn't rated here. Note my scoring of Stevie is based on his web site and OTE columns and not checked with him so I might be missing some higher performances.

Rock, Trad Onsight

E7 - Stevie made some of the first ground up ascents of E7s with the likes of Isis is Angry and Free Stonehenge but I'm not sure if these were flashed onsight. He has however onsighted 5.13 cracks which would definitely get E7 in the UK. 115 points

Rock, Headpoint

E8. Again I'm not sure if Stevie has ever set out to headpoint a trad route but his recent free ascent of the Sundevil Chimney on the Fisher Towers with two 5.13 pitches on mud must rate a good E8. 105pts

Rock, Sport Onsight

8a+ Sarre 2000 (Sarre Italy) 120pts

Rock, Redpoint

8c, La Plafond (Volx) and recently Popeye (F.A Maple Canyon USA) 120pts

Rock, Bouldering

Not sure but might be V12 in the States 115pts

Winter, UK Mixed

Scottish VIII not sure here but his first ascent of Terminator in Wales would be VIII by the sounds of it. 100pts

Winter, Ice

WI7+ Stevie has climbed several WI7s but his first ascent of Nuit Blanche in a very fragile state with almost no protection on the crux must rate close to WI7+, it was later claimed by Lafaille at WI7 with a bolt placed on the dodgy section. While WI grades usually have R or X for danger I (biased Brit?) feel Stevie's effort was a notch above Lafailles. 125pts

Winter, Mixed

M11, first ever route at the grade Empire Strikes Back, followed by the second ascent of Mission Impossible (Stevie's downgrading being confirmed by recent repeats) 120pts

Winter, Alpine

ED5, Interestingly Stevie's really impressive alpine ascents have been solos which kind of struggle to fit into the scale. Stevie's free speed solo in winter of the Walker is his best ascent and shows the dilemma. The Walker is ED1 if aided in summer conditions, so in my opinion free in winter in 8 hours must get ED5. 115pts

Altitude

Surprisingly I think full on big mountaineering is Stevie's weakest area despite the Guardian newspaper claiming him as "The greatest all round mountaineer Britain has ever produced". Stevie lacks the big technical routes of say Fowler or the alpine style high altitude new routes of someone like Doug Scott. I'm not certain that Stevie has made 8000m although he has been on several expeditions to those peaks, so lets say 7500m. 85pts

Competitions

Probably the world's most competitive climber! Stevie has competed internationally in many world ice comps. 105pts

Long Routes

Stevie is a lover of speed and would be ashamed to admit spending any significant time plodding on any route. I'm guessing Himalayan trips must have included up to a week on some routes. 85pts

Aid

Aid, again Stevie would be proud to score zero points in an area he feels is plainly cheating. However I'm sure he's frigged a bit while trying to free stuff so A1+. 40pts

Gnarl Factor

The archetypal dobber? Stevie's reputation for a "forceful argument" is well known. The funniest example was during his feud with Lafaille when the Frenchman's Les Comperes mixed route was claimed as the hardest in the world, so Stevie rushed over for a repeat, then soloed it and then "allowed his wife to repeat it"! That's got to be worth a good 90 points.

Total

1,340 points

 

Kevin Thaw

Californian based Kevin Thaw was once described as the "best all round climber in Britain" in a profile for Climber Mag. Well, maybe, what is certainly less disputable is that Kevin is the UK's best ever aid climber having climbed several consensus new wave A5 routes. Our image of a big wall climber is of a rotund gear freak who frees 4c on a good day. Well Kevin might be a gear freak but he can certainly pull down from V11 to French 8a onsight. Like all great all rounders Kevin confounds pigeon holing and like his accent which can veer erratically from Cali-drawl to broad Mosley dialect, Kevin's climbing is a bewildering combination of extremes; the Slacker who makes 36hour single pushes in Patagonia, the E8/9 gritstone new router whose also an expert on the Canadian Rockies.

One example of where this table falls down a little is in perhaps Kevin's strongest area speed climbing. He holds several Yosemite speed records on El Cap and has climbed the 33 pitch Nose in 6 hours. Even without this measure Kevin is still a major contender for that claim made in Climber Magazine.

Rock, Trad Onsight

E7 - Benign Lives (Froggatt) 115 points

Rock, Headpoint

E9 - Order of the Phoenix (F.A Wimberry) 115pts

Rock, Sport Onsight

8a 115pts

Rock, Redpoint

8b+ 115pts

Rock, Bouldering

V11 110pts

Winter, UK Mixed

VII - Rebel Alliance (F.A Cairngorms)

Winter, Ice

WI7+ Reality Bath, Replicant, Prophet on a Stick,... 125pts

Winter, Mixed

M9 Fatman and Robin (Vail USA) 105pts

Winter, Alpine

"Don't reckon there's any harder than ED3" On top of ED3s such as No Siesta on the Jorasse Kevin's first free ascent of the 2600m Slovak route on the West face of Fitzroy must rate a good ED5. 115pts

Altitude

8850m, Everest 105pts

Competitions

"I was asked to do Phoenix comps (bouldering) a while back" 45pts

Long Routes

12 days - first ascent of Continental Drift on El Cap 95pts

Aid

A5 - 2nd ascents of Plastic Surgery Disaster and Reticent Wall 120pts

Gnarl Factor

Rescuing his partner Leo Houlding from a 1000ft up Cerro Torre rates highly, which while not a life threatening injury was still a stout effort. Couple that with rumours of a base jump of one of America's bigger cliffs puts Kevin at Gnarler+ so say 100 points.

Total

1,405pts

 

Jean Christophe Lafaille

Stevie's big rival is well known as one of the leading Himalayan climbers active on the 8000m peaks at the moment. But did you know he put up one of the first 8cs in the world? Again the table misses some of JCs achievements such as his solo of an 8a+ sport route at Roche des Arnauds.

Rock, Trad Onsight

I'm guessing here but am pretty sure in the US he has onsighted 5.12 so E5. 95pts

Rock, Headpoint

Guessing again but seem to remember 5.13 so E7. 95pts

Rock, Sport Onsight

More guessing 8a. 115pts

Rock, Redpoint

8c do know this one Patience at Roche des Arnauds in France. 120pts

Rock, Bouldering

Haven't a clue don't believe it was something JC specialized in but if you can climb 8c then you must be able to do V10. 105pts

Winter, UK Mixed

I know he hasn't been to Scotland.

Winter, Ice

WI7 JC claimed the first ascent of Nuit Blanche when it was super thin and fragile. The dribbles of ice fell down when his second attempted to follow. Definitely WI7, note that Lafaille placed a bolt where as Stevie led it first with no real pro so Stevie gets a higher grade. 110pts

Winter, Mixed

M9. Fatman and Robin (Vail, USA). 105pts

Winter, Alpine

ED4, one of Lafaille's real strong points, with many first ascents solo, particularly in winter. Both his route on the Dru and Decolage on the Jorasses would rate ED4. His Grand Voyage with 10 North faces in 15 days might well rate ED5 if you could put a grade on it. It seems a little perverse that JC should score lower than Stevie here when his contribution of big technical routes is so significant. However I guess why JC doesn't get that extra notch is that he relies on aid a lot, which fits in with traditional alpinism but the modern super routes will have to be done free. 105pts

Altitude

Currently 10 8,000m peaks with several by new routes and many by innovative ascents. An extremely impressive collection which before long could include all 14 8000m peaks. 115pts

Competitions

International competitor, in the late 80s competed at several world cup comps. 105pts

Long Routes

9 days spent on his final push on his Dru route. 95pts

Aid

A5. JC has climbed Sea of Dreams a tough A4 in Yosemite. His own magnum opus is halfway up his route on the Dru, where he led an overhanging seam on bird beaks. I've looked at this pitch but inadvertently missed climbing it, so can't comment on it's difficulty other than it looks hard, however some of the other pitches on the route were slightly generous in grade. Comments like "Euros can't climb A5" shouldn't sway the fact that you have to climb something before you can offer a worthwhile opinion on the grade. So JC gets his A5. 120pts

Gnarl Factor

In the 'bambi v sabre toothed tiger' war of egos between Lafaille and Stevie it was easy to buy the bruiser mentality of Stevie over shadowing the effete Frenchman. Don't buy the hype. JC self rescue from Annapurna when an abseil anchor failed taking his partner, the ropes and the rack leaving JC stranded 1,500m up the terrifying South Face, is one of the most extraordinary in mountaineering. Perhaps more impressive in a different way was during attempts on Shishagma JC abandoned his own summit attempts to rescue a dying climber. True Hero in my books 125pts

Total

1,410 points

 

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